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    Missile Defense

Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?

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rshowalter - 10:23am Mar 15, 2001 EST (#1023 of 1026) Delete Message
Robert Showalter

Two are especially important here -- the most important is SECULAR REDEMPTION which starts:

. Im dreaming of redemption, ...not denial, not agony, ....not lies told or ...amorphous deceptions ...amorphously defended, ...but redemption.

. Redemption for all concerned, .....with a decent concern for all, ....with feelings felt and not denied, ...weights weighed, and not forgotten, .....needs of flesh, nerves, guts and mind .....all remembered, and workably in place ....with neither lies nor torture.

. Im dreaming of redemption, ...where all concerned ....can know the same stories, ....and live with that, and look back and go on comfortably, ....not unreasonably proud, ...or unreasonably ashamed, ways that work private and in public.

For redemption in this sense to work, the TRUTH has to be clear to all concerned. There have to be ways past obstruction, including the obstruction of intimidation, and the obstruction of lies. That means that Chain Breakers have to be made few enough, so that truth that might before have been "somehow, too weak" before, can propagate from person to person, until that truth is widely understood, and prompts action.

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    For practical reasons, the alternative to redemption, in both the secular and the religious senses, can be severe, just punishment.

    Thinking about the current situation, and thinking about justice, I find myself asking:

    What would Jesus say? .... What would Johnathan Edwards say? ..... What would Dante have said? ..... What should Billy Graham, and other religious leaders like him have to say, if they looked at the facts, and thought about punishment?

    It seems to me an interesting thought. It would be hard to imagine punishments terrible enough for some of the prominent, trusted, self satisfied people involved.

    And the punishments, and the justice, would be ugly.

    rshowalter - 10:35am Mar 15, 2001 EST (#1024 of 1026) Delete Message
    Robert Showalter;$sessionid$IRUNEMAAAA51KCRBADLSFFAKEEANMIV2?type=world&Repository=WORLD_REP&RepositoryStoryID=%2Fnews%2FIDS%2FWorld%2FINTERNATIONAL-ARMS-INDIA-DC_NEW.XML

    India Defense Minister Quits As Scandal Rages Last updated: 15 Mar 2001 14:44 GMT+00:00 (Reuters) by John Chalmers

    NEW DELHI (Reuters) - The Indian government was plunged deep into crisis on Thursday after the defense minister quit and a key coalition partner withdrew support over a sensational arms bribery scandal.

    The United News of India agency said minister George Fernandes had resigned, two days after the scandal broke.

    almarst-2001 - 12:10pm Mar 15, 2001 EST (#1025 of 1026)

    Oil firms stoke up Sudan war -,3604,451982,00.html

    Christian Aid report accuses foreign companies of complicity in mass displacement and killing of thousands

    Boom time for few signals misery and death for many -,3604,452006,00.html

    Victoria Brittain and Terry Macalister Thursday March 15, 2001 The Guardian

    "Oil companies operating in Sudan are complicit in the systematic depopulating of large areas of the country and atrocities against civilians, tens of thousands of whom have been killed and displaced from the areas around the oil fields, according to a report to be published today." (more)

    almarst-2001 - 12:20pm Mar 15, 2001 EST (#1026 of 1026)

    Nato refuses to intervene in Macedonian conflict -,3604,452334,00.html

    Staff and agencies Thursday March 15, 2001

    "Police and ethnic Albanian guerrillas clashed outside Macedonia's second-largest city for the second day running as news came that Nato has refused to intervene in the conflict. "

    "... "Nato declared today that it stands "shoulder-to-shoulder" with Macedonia's government but made clear that it will not send combat troops to help fight ethnic Albanian rebels.

    A Nato official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said fighting in the southern Balkan country was a domestic issue and that the alliance does not consider this a foreign invasion, despite claims the insurgents are operating out of Kosovo."

    Not entirely "unexpected" but pretty embarassing situation at NATO;)

    They bombed the country for 78 days for fighting the "domestic" conflict. Which is against norms of International Law, Security council and NATO's own charter. They allowed the KLA to keep and continue their arming and criminal activities for more then a year. They allowed the ethnic cleansing to take place under their noses and eyes. All this on what is still the suvereign Yugoslavian territory - the Kosovo.

    And now its not their business any more?

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