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- 11:05pm Jan 24, 2001 EST (#593
rshowalter - 10:41am Jan 24, 2001 EST (#589 of 592)
["Because no scientific reasons whatsoever have been presented.
The "figure of merit" thing is engineering and scientifically
The idea that "engineering is scientifically worthless"
Get the quote right. That misquote is so blatent, I have to think
you just misread it, even thought you quote it above. It is so far
from what I actually said that I suspect it isn't the ordinary
shows a good deal of disconnection from the processes
by which real human beings build real things that work.
Well, since you completely misquote me, who knows what you are
thinking. But your complete lack of scientific arguments leads me to
think you have no clue how things work. And you are talking to a
world class expert on how things work.
Engineers have, over the years, built many things, including
very many involving big projects. And the experience is that
order of magnitude advances aren't to be expected after a
project has gone on long enough,
Notable exceptions are computers, electronics, and lasers. As I
pointed out and as you deliberately ignored. Now why is that?
except in VERY exceptional cases, and always for good
Funny that you seem innocent of all those "good engineering
reasons". Seems you would mention one.
(Engineering is the science that can be applied to
making things, by real human beings, in real human
organizations, using real tools.)
I can eat you alive as an engineer. You have yet to give any
engineering or scientific reasons for anything. I have given a great
deal of engineering and scientific reasons that could be questioned.
Yet you haven't.
Now why is that?
- 11:18pm Jan 24, 2001 EST (#594
mhunter20 - 01:17pm Jan 24, 2001 EST (#592 of 593)
Perhaps you should read about the source of power that Tesla
used for his rig.
I never really studied him. I probably should. If you run across
a good book, let me know.
I never thought about Tunguska and Tesla being connected. I do
know he could transmit vast amounts of power at distances using high
frequency and voltage. Getting Maxwell's equations to work on
something like that is tough. I mean, the different kinds of
dielectric/conductive properties of the ground. Does relaxation time
enter the issue because of the high frequency? I mean Ohm's law
tells us high voltage means power transmission without losses. Not
to mention the spooky resonant standing waves that we also use on
common transmission lines.
If I were to play devil's advocate, I'd say that the energy
released at Tunguska that flattened virtually every tree for over a
thousand square miles, was beyond the electrical conservation of
energy thing available at the time. (Unless he tapped into some
other source of energy.)
- 10:20am Jan 25, 2001 EST (#595
I do know he could transmit vast amounts of power
at distances using high frequency and voltage.
Power was transmitted on the Earth's surface at extremely low
frequencies, about 12 Hz.
behind the Magnifying Transmitter - an electron pump
- 10:30am Jan 25, 2001 EST (#596
dirac why don't you identify yourself, in a verifiable
way. I have a professional engineers ticket, and if you feel that
you have reason to go after it, why don't you?
I'd say you're a writer, running malicious, and taking the word
of people you happen to want to believe, for whatever reasons. But
I'm willing to be convinced.
Give me your name, and your credentials, and we can discuss
whether you can "eat me alive as an engineer." I know many engineers
of considerable rank, and I defer to them in some ways, but on
matters of technical right or wrong, by and large, the facts, in
open engineering discussion, speak for themselves, and the people
with rank got there, in part, because they know that especially
Could I be wrong? Sure. So could you.
Why don't you call me on the telephone?
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