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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars" defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an application of science be successful? Is a militarized space inevitable, necessary or impossible?

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kgblankinship - 12:21pm Jun 9, 2000 EST (#57 of 11858)

I used to work in the missile industry on a couple of missile defense programs. Although Postol has often done insightful analysis, he often does not have access to data of sufficient quality to adequately base his conclusions. He has been a consistent critic of missile defense starting with Patriot in Desert Storm, and seems to have accepted as an article of faith that technology cannot provide an adequate defense against ballistic missiles.

It has been my experience otherwise. Perhaps the tests of this missile system were rigged. But can interceptors be designed to distinguish warheads from decoys ? The answer is yes. There are a number of ways interceptors can be designed to pick out the warhead: using infrared signatures, radar signatures, and by tracking the warhead/decoy trajectories.

The real issue of missile defense is political. If the US is vulnerable to nuclear missiles from countries like IRAQ, it is much less likely we will go to war against them. Would we have attacked in Desert Storm if Saddam had the ability to destroy Los Angeles ? Most likely not. However, doing away with missile defense appeals to pacifists who do not want the US to intervene militarily in countries overseas. It's the Vietnam thing all over again.

gdare - 12:52pm Jun 9, 2000 EST (#58 of 11858)

Actually, Postol's argument is that missile defense is not ready for prime time. It's not just him, the case of Dr. Nira Schartz (ex-TRW) has been going on for a couple of years. Back in the days of SDI, Professor David Parnas (an RTOS pioneer) objected to the feasibility of such a system and he turned out to be right.

Given the irrational exuberance over the Patriot's performance, Ted Postol merely pointed out the obvious: less than 25% effectiveness.

None of these people are opposed to doing the engineering research. The "failure" of SDI contributed to the wireless computing and communications boom that started in the 90's and sky is the limit as we stand in 2000. The research is worth pursuing, the spin-off benefits are unknown but look what happened after the space program, after SDI, etc. Making premature commitments to deployment and not laying the diplomatic foundations for it are the big problems.

michaellinder - 12:59pm Jun 9, 2000 EST (#59 of 11858)

Star Wars was a clever bluff which helped accelerate the fall of the Soviet Union, but how do you play the same hand once you've shown your cards? Lie about it, as the military-industrial complex is doing to keep itself in business at enormous cost to American taxpayers.

Mr. McCreary (Comment 55) is correct. Missile delivery systems are but one way to deliver nuclear weapons and missile defense does nothing to deter rogue terrorists. Republicans, however, would rather use paranoia to promote their business partners' big budget schemes. Follow the money trail. "We have met the enemy," said Pogo, "and he is us."

longiiland - 01:09pm Jun 9, 2000 EST (#60 of 11858)

"However, doing away with missile defense appeals to pacifists who do not want the US to intervene militarily in countries overseas. It's the Vietnam thing all over again."

  • No..Missile defense does not exist yet-so its not 'doing away' its not deploying it:) Second its Nuclear Utilization Theory all over again not 'vietnam'. Scary how easy and quick you are to draw a word that cost Americans upwards of 54,000 young men and women lives for the cause of a political point...

    pauld115 - 01:49pm Jun 9, 2000 EST (#61 of 11858)

    A missle defence system should be built..period...sooner or later we will have to come to the same point where it is in our interest to build a system to protect ourselves from foreign aggressors. Lest we allow ourselves to be balckmailed or one or more of our cities to be targeted. Think about how well our economy or our government would hold up if New York or Washington were incinerated...I prefer to get started on it earlier than later before something happens. After all how do we know what the future political situation may be...Better safe than sorry....

    tom_short - 02:51pm Jun 9, 2000 EST (#62 of 11858)

    Concerning the article on the "flawed" testing by the Pentagon on the anti-missle defense system. Seems I saw a movie the other night concerning the exact same thing. "Pentagon Wars" was the name of the movie if I remember right. Seems the good old boys club did the same thing with the Bradley Fighting Vehicle, among other things. When you can't pass the test, you make the test simpler until you CAN pass it! What the heck, it's only money. Even if it doesn't work and we can't use it, we can sell it to third world countries, can't we?

    pvenuta - 03:15pm Jun 9, 2000 EST (#63 of 11858)

    OH the wolf doth wear the sheep's clothing. Our technology in defense systems is far more advanced then CNN can report, including the missile defense initiative. Is area 51 used to produce bubble gum? or provide autopsies on kazoo? The advancement of this technology is far beyond the so called "top secret" intel we are receiving today.

    johnberndt - 04:07pm Jun 9, 2000 EST (#64 of 11858)

    pvenuta - 03:15pm Jun 9, 2000 EDT (#63 of 63)

    OH the wolf doth wear the sheep's clothing. Our technology in defense systems is far more advanced then CNN can report, including the missile defense initiative. Is area 51 used to produce bubble gum? or provide autopsies on kazoo? The advancement of this technology is far beyond the so called "top secret" intel we are receiving today

    No kidding, the only thing we hear about is what the pentegon wants us to hear about. That is not their latest, most advanced equipment that they let information leak out about.

    johnberndt - 04:09pm Jun 9, 2000 EST (#65 of 11858)

    tom_short - 02:51pm Jun 9, 2000 EDT (#62 of 64)

    Concerning the article on the "flawed" testing by the Pentagon on the anti-missle defense system. Seems I saw a movie the other night concerning the exact same thing. "Pentagon Wars" was the name of the movie if I remember right. Seems the good old boys club did the same thing with the Bradley Fighting Vehicle, among other things. When you can't pass the test, you make the test simpler until you CAN pass it! What the heck, it's only money. Even if it doesn't work and we can't use it, we can sell it to third world countries, can't we?

    Seemed to work well enough in Desert Storm.

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