 | Missile Defense #5686 - gisterme
Jun 21, 2001 07:15 pm
Lou Mazza wrote: "...Who says life doesn't follow art?..." Not I, Lou. I don't say that. :-) WRT "George Johnson", I don't have a clue... |
| | Missile Defense #5662 - midmoon
Jun 21, 2001 09:29 am
Almarst wrote :"The US did not enter the WWII to protect anyone but its own interests as defined by the American ruling class - financial, oil and military-industrial.
As it did in all its following and prior wars." Actually the US had had a tradition not to intervene foreign affairs until the Japan bombed
the Pearl Harbor.That was the will of the founding fathers of the nation. Then what's wrong with the US?.. |
| | Missile Defense #5659 - almarst-2001
Jun 21, 2001 09:19 am
Dirac - Being there and done that? - Iraq claims air strikes kill 23 on football pitch - http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=79299Iraqi television shows TV footage of US and British bombing - http://sg.news.yahoo.com/010620/1/13pr5.html |
| | Missile Defense #5658 - almarst-2001
Jun 21, 2001 09:14 am
lunarchick 6/21/01 9:10am Understand... But can I pretend not to?;) Dirac - Being there and done that? - Guatemala’s Death Files" - http://www.consortiumnews.com/052699a1.html |
| | Missile Defense #5656 - almarst-2001
Jun 21, 2001 08:56 am
Dirac - "Been there and done that." Being where and done what? |
| | Missile Defense #5649 - dirac_10
Jun 21, 2001 02:18 am
almarst-2001 - 11:48pm Jun 20, 2001 EST (#5638 of 5648) I think you never knew "what started that whole thing." It was the racial politics. Been there and done that. That was why virtually all of Europe and Western Civilization rose up as one to stamp it out. |
| | Missile Defense #5640 - almarst-2001
Jun 21, 2001 12:02 am
dirac_10 6/20/01 6:54pm "no two democracies have ever had a war." Give them a time;) |
| | Missile Defense #5639 - almarst-2001
Jun 20, 2001 11:55 pm
mazza9 6/20/01 6:14pm You should know that US did not open the doors to the Jews to escape the Nazis. Nor did it tryed to stop the extermination and destroy the concentration camps or even the rairroads to them. The US did not enter the WWII to protect anyone but its own interests as defined by the American ruling class - financial, oil and military-industrial... |
| | Missile Defense #5638 - almarst-2001
Jun 20, 2001 11:48 pm
gisterme 6/20/01 6:12pm "You seem to keep forgetting what started that whole thing." I think you never knew "what started that whole thing." There is enough info on the internet for those who want to know. Just for the very short answer, the whole thing started similar like what is happening today in Macedonia. But much worst... |
| | Missile Defense #5637 - almarst-2001
Jun 20, 2001 11:33 pm
mazza9 6/20/01 5:54pm "Ever see the photos of the children who were gassed by Saddam" Ever see the photos of the children dying of Napalm? Of Agent Orange? Of leykomia in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?.. |
| | Missile Defense #5633 - rshowalter
Jun 20, 2001 11:18 pm
If you read the thread, the reasons almarst objects to missile defense involve issues of background and motivation --- if these issues were dealt with adequately -- that is, adequately for Russia and other nations -- then perhaps missile defense wouldn't be a very difficult issue to resolve. Missile defense would also be very much less needed -- because the US would be less hated, and more able to defend itself from monsters in ways that require the wholehearted cooperation of many other nations. |
| | Missile Defense #5632 - rshowalter
Jun 20, 2001 11:13 pm
And maybe, sometimes, the ability to imagine what hadn't been imagined before. I think almarst does reflect Russian thinking . ... |
| | Missile Defense #5628 - rshowalter
Jun 20, 2001 10:36 pm
almarst sometimes seems to feel that Friedman is slightly to the right of Louis the Fourteenth. |
| | Missile Defense #5609 - rshowalter
Jun 20, 2001 09:27 pm
A problem is, that once
" somebody starts it"
there seems little regard for civilian (or random) casualties that get inflicted. Almarst surely objects to that. I do, too... |
| | Missile Defense #5606 - gisterme
Jun 20, 2001 09:19 pm
rshowalter wrote: "...Now, of course I don't know who almarst is, but if you look at what he's written, he may be a fair analog of some patterns of Russian thought..." Or not. The more I look at what she's written and compare that to what the Russians are saying and doing the more I doubt that almarst represents their mainstream thinking. I haven't quite been ignoring almarst, Robert... |
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