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n Missile Defense #3103 - whannan2 May 3, 2001 03:44 am
Sec. Rumsfeld summed it up as well as it can be done - the choices are: appeasement, isolationism, mutually assured distruction, on-going defense initiative, or bury our heads in the sand. No one defense system will protect us against all attempts to cause damage to our country, but each system adds to our protection...

n Missile Defense #3100 - artemis130 May 3, 2001 12:30 am
In case any have missed the logic train:

Rumsfeld premise no.

1) Russians will sell any technology to any terrorist or rogue state at anytime, so we need an NMD.

(However, if the Russians will sell anything to anyone, anytime - including bio-weapons, then we don't need an NMD because bio-weapons are easier & cheaper to deploy & virtually untraceable.)

Therefore, it's either:

1) not true that the Russians will sell anything to anyone, anytime...

n Missile Defense #3099 - artemis130 May 3, 2001 12:08 am
violet55b0 - 09:15pm May 2, 2001 EST (#3095 of 3098)

Terrorists can carry bombs in suitcases; toxic gas in thermo bottles. Gee, I hope I didn't give away any military secrets.

Hey - according to Rumsfeld, the Russians will sell anything to anybody and we all know the Russians have developed 50 different biological agents at least as deadly as a nuke because the CIA had them convinced we'd done the same, so.......

n Missile Defense #3086 - rshowalter May 2, 2001 08:04 pm
gisterme 5/2/01 7:51pm

I've felt, and a number of engineers I've talked to have felt that Star Wars was way beyond what was possible. And I've pushed through some numbers, and seen others push through some numbers, that seemed to show that. And I've felt so, and said so, and perhaps I've been wrong, and owe people an apology...

n Missile Defense #3068 - possumdag May 2, 2001 06:56 pm
Rumsfeld is NOT a Scientist ""The Rumsfeld panel, a high-level commission convened by Congress in 1998 to assess the ballistic missile threat to the United States .. ""

n Missile Defense #3067 - possumdag May 2, 2001 06:54 pm
last link says:

Published on Thursday, May 11, 2000 in the Boston Globe Missile Defense System Won't Work by David Wright and Theodore Postol

The United States is on the verge of deploying a national missile defense system intended to shoot down long-range missiles. The Clinton administration is scheduled to decide this fall whether to give the green light to a system that is expected to cost more than $60 billion, sour relations with Russia and China, and block deep cuts in nuclear arsenals.

But the real scandal is that the defense being developed won't work - and few in Washington seem to know or care...

n Missile Defense #3016 - rshowalter May 2, 2001 03:26 pm
disbelief1 5/2/01 2:18pm says:

" Bush Bush Powell Cheney and Rumsfeld don't have a clue, let alone depth and experience like Clinton and his idiot cabinet, right?"

I wouldn't say that inexperience or depth are so much of a problem. Based solely on what I can see and piece together, including financial arrangements, my question about, at the least, the elder Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld would be

Could corruption be the problem?

What they're doing seems to be in gross disregard of the national interest -- a reckless endangering of the United States of America...

n Missile Defense #3005 - disbelief1 May 2, 2001 02:18 pm
Of course the Times "what the world thinks" should have been relabeled for accuracy, "what the left thinks...what the socialists think..what people like the TIMES think..." Cute, a tactic like dear little "Jamie" ,lately sokesman for the Deparment of State's Albright, tried to plant, quoting leftist journalists as "Europe". Bush Bush Powell Cheney and Rumsfeld don't have a clue, let alone depth and experience like Clinton and his idiot cabinet, right? From the Clinton administraion that had no foreign policy except America is always wrong...and Israel or anything socialist or communist is always right...

n Missile Defense #2979 - rshowalter May 2, 2001 11:19 am
Indefensible missiles: Mr Bush is making a dangerous mistake

Special report: George Bush's America Leader Wednesday May 2, 2001 The Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/bush/story/0,7369,481620,00.html

"President George Bush's decision to develop highly versatile, "multilayered" space, land, air and sea missile defences is an historic mistake that will have dangerously negative repercussions worldwide. Going far beyond anything envisaged by his predecessors, this grandiose scheme will demolish the foundation of the strategic nuclear balance, the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty with the Soviet Union. By banning defensive systems, the ABM accord effectively ensured that neither side could survive, let alone "win", a nuclear exchange...

n Missile Defense #2959 - rshowalter May 2, 2001 08:04 am
In Strategy Overhaul, Bush Seeks a Missile Shield by DAVID E. SANGER and STEVEN LEE MYERS http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/02/world/02PREX.html

"WASHINGTON, May 1 — President Bush called today for sweeping changes in security strategy, including a new relationship with Russia, that would build an expansive missile defense system and cut "to the lowest possible number" the nuclear arsenals that both sides assembled in the cold war.

"Mr...

n Missile Defense #2947 - artemis130 May 1, 2001 11:54 pm
Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz are selling you "defense first" characters a trojan horse and a boondoggle.

Don't trust 'em.

n Missile Defense #2884 - scootair May 1, 2001 11:55 am
Bush proposes to throw money at a weapon system that has consistently failed highly contrived, unrealistic tests. According to independent experts (most notably Ted Postal from MIT) it is highly dubious that it will ever be able to accompolish it's stated mission.

In the Times yesterday, an Administration source stated that it's not important that it be an "air tight" defense against even a small attack (unless you are on the receiving end of it) , only that it put doubts in mind of a potential agressor...

n Missile Defense #2596 - rshowalter Apr 25, 2001 06:05 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/25/politics/25RUMS.html Rumsfeld Gets 90 More Days to Sell Assets by STEVEN LEE MYERS is a most interesting piece -- and the details behind it might be yet more interesting.

The piece ends:

" These are not publicly traded interests and there is no public market for them," Admiral Quigley said. "It is a private market...

n Missile Defense #1958 - almarst-2001 Apr 3, 2001 11:40 pm
A NEW COLD WAR IN THE MAKING?

by Srdja Trifkovic After a lean decade Cold War junkies are getting their fix again. During his Senate confirmation hearing (January 17) Colin Powell declared that Russia's objections should not be an obstacle to further NATO enlargement or to the development of National Missile Defense...

n Missile Defense #1883 - almarst-2001 Apr 1, 2001 07:55 pm
rshowalt 4/1/01 7:39pm

The Rumsfeld's behavier can't be explained other then as sign of veakness and frastration.

I am sure Putin's team understand phychology.

It seems the US administrations since Clinton follow the old Russian irony: "The force does not need intelligence" (meaning - to its own detriment).

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